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	<title>Comments on: Glue &#8211; the new mapping framework</title>
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	<description>On a quest for the silver bullet..</description>
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		<title>By: David Miles</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>David Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - running into issues with Glue and mapping nested collections and lists - I cannot seem to get it working - is there an email address I can contact you on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; running into issues with Glue and mapping nested collections and lists &#8211; I cannot seem to get it working &#8211; is there an email address I can contact you on?</p>
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		<title>By: Tore Vestues</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Tore Vestues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Miguel,

I&#039;ve answered your questions on the codeplex-site.

-Tore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miguel,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve answered your questions on the codeplex-site.</p>
<p>-Tore</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I posted a few questions about Glue in Codeplex:
http://glue.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=69383

I am not sure if it would be better to post here but in Codeplex is better so I can post it with code.

Thank You,
Miguel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I posted a few questions about Glue in Codeplex:<br />
<a href="http://glue.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=69383" rel="nofollow">http://glue.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=69383</a></p>
<p>I am not sure if it would be better to post here but in Codeplex is better so I can post it with code.</p>
<p>Thank You,<br />
Miguel</p>
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		<title>By: Tore Vestues</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Tore Vestues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Øyvind,

At the moment we support two things:

First, as Automapper, Glue supports a way to validate your configuration. Meaning you can check if all the properties on one or both of the types have been related (or ignored). See: http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Verification%20of%20relations

Second, and this is not supported by Automapper as fas as I can see, Glue supports to actual test the mapping. Meaning it sends random values through the converters (if any) and sets the values on an actual object to validate that the value is set, and that no exception is thrown in the process: http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Testing%20the%20mapping

The next release will also contain some debug/analyzing tool to make it simpler to see what is actually being mapped.

-Tore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Øyvind,</p>
<p>At the moment we support two things:</p>
<p>First, as Automapper, Glue supports a way to validate your configuration. Meaning you can check if all the properties on one or both of the types have been related (or ignored). See: <a href="http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Verification%20of%20relations" rel="nofollow">http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Verification%20of%20relations</a></p>
<p>Second, and this is not supported by Automapper as fas as I can see, Glue supports to actual test the mapping. Meaning it sends random values through the converters (if any) and sets the values on an actual object to validate that the value is set, and that no exception is thrown in the process: <a href="http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Testing%20the%20mapping" rel="nofollow">http://glue.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Testing%20the%20mapping</a></p>
<p>The next release will also contain some debug/analyzing tool to make it simpler to see what is actually being mapped.</p>
<p>-Tore</p>
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		<title>By: Øyvind Fanebust</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Fanebust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tore,

Funny, I actually introduced AutoMapper to a solution right before I saw your post.

What scenarios related to verification and testing does your framework solve that AM does not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tore,</p>
<p>Funny, I actually introduced AutoMapper to a solution right before I saw your post.</p>
<p>What scenarios related to verification and testing does your framework solve that AM does not?</p>
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		<title>By: Tore Vestues</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Tore Vestues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark, thanks for the question, it is a very important one.

My intension is to make Glue more general purpose, and make it support more mapping scenarios than Automapper. In particular, it supports bidirectional mapping: you define the mapping once, and can use it to map both directions.

In this blogpost (http://bit.ly/14WmPF), Bogard writes :
&quot;Some of the requests I’ve inferred include a lot of mapping from ViewModels back to Domain models.  Personally, this seems wacky to me, unless you’re in some sort of ActiveRecord/CRUD scenario.  In those cases, I’d rather expose my model directly to my views.&quot;

This assumes:
1) that you only do mapping to and from a gui-layer. The way I see it, is that mapping can be done between any two layers or tiers. Glue supports this through being more generic.
2) that you only model your solutions the way Bogard thinks you should. I agree to much of what Bogard thinks about gui architecture, but living in the real world I often encounter existing systems where this is not the case. Glue supports other scenarios as well.

In addition I want Glue to be more focused on verification and testing. This is an important issue for me, in order to make mapping less fragile.

- Tore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark, thanks for the question, it is a very important one.</p>
<p>My intension is to make Glue more general purpose, and make it support more mapping scenarios than Automapper. In particular, it supports bidirectional mapping: you define the mapping once, and can use it to map both directions.</p>
<p>In this blogpost (<a href="http://bit.ly/14WmPF)" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/14WmPF)</a>, Bogard writes :<br />
&#8220;Some of the requests I’ve inferred include a lot of mapping from ViewModels back to Domain models.  Personally, this seems wacky to me, unless you’re in some sort of ActiveRecord/CRUD scenario.  In those cases, I’d rather expose my model directly to my views.&#8221;</p>
<p>This assumes:<br />
1) that you only do mapping to and from a gui-layer. The way I see it, is that mapping can be done between any two layers or tiers. Glue supports this through being more generic.<br />
2) that you only model your solutions the way Bogard thinks you should. I agree to much of what Bogard thinks about gui architecture, but living in the real world I often encounter existing systems where this is not the case. Glue supports other scenarios as well.</p>
<p>In addition I want Glue to be more focused on verification and testing. This is an important issue for me, in order to make mapping less fragile.</p>
<p>- Tore</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Nijhof</title>
		<link>http://tore.vestues.no/2009/08/10/glue-the-new-mapping-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Nijhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tore,

How is this different from the Automapper from Jimmy Bogard? Yes I am lazy, I will take a look at it later anyway, just curious.

-Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tore,</p>
<p>How is this different from the Automapper from Jimmy Bogard? Yes I am lazy, I will take a look at it later anyway, just curious.</p>
<p>-Mark</p>
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